No, he's saying that that's what certain board members have said. That guy's post said everything. At first, I jokingly "demanded" the demos, knowing it'd be a one in a million chance to get them. Then some people said some stupid stuff (I'm sure I said something inappropriate for a children attended board (though I know no children who do)). Guys, none of us are demanding anything, you took a few smart ass remarks and turned them into something else, which I took offense to. After talking to Shells last night, we don't know if the new Clementines will not be as good as one we haven't heard, I just have a bad feeling, because I, remind you, I don't like the new direction of the band. And maybe I'm not "cultured" enough to like it, but I've been a fan of Bishop Allen for three years now, and the first night, way back in the fall of 03, I heard "Walk On By". It was the first song that I fell in love with. It wasn't on Charm School and I was disappointed, but Christian told me that night it would be on their next album, due out next year (heh). And to hear it the way it is on July.....it just made me sad, the song that really got me into the band is not the song I love anymore. But I have live versions to get me through till I can maybe hear the demo of.